Moving Inactives to Storage - Revision history

Vio: bug was fixed

2016-02-07T00:59:09Z

bug was fixed

Edfel: /* Chances of Success */

2014-06-21T16:53:43Z

‎Chances of Success

Edfel: /* Chances of Success */

2014-06-21T16:32:01Z

‎Chances of Success

Edfel: /* Chances of Success */

2014-06-21T16:31:26Z

‎Chances of Success

Edfel: Some more meat to the page

2014-06-21T16:30:48Z

Some more meat to the page

Edfel: Hardness of shoving people into rooms.

2014-06-20T22:34:18Z

Hardness of shoving people into rooms.

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How many '''Kick Out!''' actions does it take to shove an inactive into a storage room? The table below gives, for each starting room and each available number of tries (which typically depends on the {{ap}} available), the probability of success.

'''Red''' cells indicate chances under 1/3, '''green''' indicates chances over 2/3.

The last column tells, if you are ready to burn any amount of {{ap}} to move an inactive to storage, the average number of tries it would take. Note that due to the nature of the random process, In many cases you may need very few tries, but in some cases the number of tries will grow really high, so overall the average is not a "typical" number of tries.

{|class="wikitable" width="1000" align="center
|-
! width="150" | Starting Room
! 1 try
! 2 tries
! 3 tries
! 4 tries
! 5 tries
! 6 tries
! 7 tries
! 8 tries
! 9 tries
! 10 tries
! width="75" | Expected number of tries for success
|-
| '''Front Alpha Turret''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |6% || style="background: #DD9999" |11% || style="background: #DD9999" |17% || style="background: #DD9999" |23% || style="background: #DD9999" |28% || style="background: #DD9999" |33% || 38% || 42% || 46% || 14,6
|-
| '''Bridge''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |4% || style="background: #DD9999" |10% || style="background: #DD9999" |16% || style="background: #DD9999" |21% || style="background: #DD9999" |27% || style="background: #DD9999" |32% || 36% || 41% || 45% || 14,9
|-
| '''Front Beta Turret''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |6% || style="background: #DD9999" |11% || style="background: #DD9999" |17% || style="background: #DD9999" |23% || style="background: #DD9999" |28% || style="background: #DD9999" |33% || 38% || 42% || 46% || 14,6
|-
| '''Front Corridor''' || style="background: #DD9999" |13% || style="background: #DD9999" |19% || style="background: #DD9999" |25% || style="background: #DD9999" |29% || 35% || 39% || 44% || 48% || 52% || 55% || 12,4
|-
| '''Garden''' || 50% || 56% || 59% || 62% || 65% || style="background: #99CC99" |67% || style="background: #99CC99" |69% || style="background: #99CC99" |72% || style="background: #99CC99" |74% || style="background: #99CC99" |76% || 7,2
|-
| '''Lab''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |6% || style="background: #DD9999" |11% || style="background: #DD9999" |18% || style="background: #DD9999" |23% || style="background: #DD9999" |29% || 34% || 39% || 44% || 48% || 14,2
|-
| '''MedLab''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |4% || style="background: #DD9999" |12% || style="background: #DD9999" |17% || style="background: #DD9999" |24% || style="background: #DD9999" |29% || 35% || 39% || 44% || 49% || 14,1
|-
| '''Center Alpha Turret''' || 50% || 60% || 65% || style="background: #99CC99" |72% || style="background: #99CC99" |74% || style="background: #99CC99" |79% || style="background: #99CC99" |81% || style="background: #99CC99" |84% || style="background: #99CC99" |85% || style="background: #99CC99" |87% || 4,8
|-
| '''Center Bravo Turret''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |10% || style="background: #DD9999" |15% || style="background: #DD9999" |23% || style="background: #DD9999" |29% || 36% || 41% || 46% || 51% || 55% || 12,7
|-
| '''Center Corridor''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |13% || style="background: #DD9999" |18% || style="background: #DD9999" |29% || 34% || 42% || 47% || 53% || 57% || 61% || 11,4
|-
| '''Refectory''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |13% || style="background: #DD9999" |18% || style="background: #DD9999" |29% || 34% || 42% || 47% || 53% || 57% || 12,4
|-
| '''Alpha Bay''' || style="background: #DD9999" |20% || style="background: #DD9999" |30% || 44% || 48% || 58% || 61% || style="background: #99CC99" |67% || style="background: #99CC99" |70% || style="background: #99CC99" |74% || style="background: #99CC99" |76% || 7,6
|-
| '''Bravo Bay''' || style="background: #DD9999" |20% || style="background: #DD9999" |25% || 35% || 40% || 48% || 52% || 58% || 62% || 66% || style="background: #99CC99" |69% || 9,2
|-
| '''Alpha Dorm''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |23% || style="background: #DD9999" |29% || 43% || 48% || 57% || 60% || style="background: #99CC99" |67% || style="background: #99CC99" |70% || style="background: #99CC99" |74% || 8,6
|-
| '''Bravo Dorm''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |23% || style="background: #DD9999" |26% || 39% || 44% || 52% || 56% || 62% || 66% || style="background: #99CC99" |70% || 9,4
|-
| '''Nexus''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |25% || style="background: #DD9999" |28% || 43% || 47% || 56% || 60% || 66% || style="background: #99CC99" |69% || style="background: #99CC99" |74% || 8,6
|-
| '''Rear Corridor''' || style="background: #DD9999" |25% || style="background: #DD9999" |28% || 43% || 47% || 56% || 60% || 66% || style="background: #99CC99" |69% || style="background: #99CC99" |74% || style="background: #99CC99" |76% || 7,6
|-
| '''Alpha Bay 2''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |26% || style="background: #DD9999" |30% || 44% || 49% || 58% || 62% || style="background: #99CC99" |68% || style="background: #99CC99" |71% || style="background: #99CC99" |75% || 8,3
|-
| '''Icarus''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |19% || style="background: #DD9999" |26% || 38% || 45% || 54% || 59% || 65% || style="background: #99CC99" |69% || style="background: #99CC99" |73% || 8,7
|-
| '''Rear Alpha Turret''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |17% || style="background: #DD9999" |30% || 38% || 48% || 54% || 61% || 66% || style="background: #99CC99" |71% || style="background: #99CC99" |74% || 8,5
|-
| '''Engine Room''' || style="background: #DD9999" |33% || style="background: #DD9999" |33% || 46% || 52% || 60% || 65% || style="background: #99CC99" |70% || style="background: #99CC99" |74% || style="background: #99CC99" |77% || style="background: #99CC99" |80% || 6,7
|-
| '''Rear Beta Turret''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |17% || style="background: #DD9999" |26% || 36% || 45% || 52% || 59% || 64% || style="background: #99CC99" |69% || style="background: #99CC99" |73% || 8,7
|}

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-[[Trading]] permits the exchange of any {{Status|Inactive}} and {{Status|Highly Inactive}} crew members located in the ship's '''storage rooms'''. Reported [[Characters|character]] exchange goods include random [[NERON Projects]] and even a finished [[PILGRED Reactor]] (for an inactive {{Character|Raluca}}).
+[[Trading]] permits the exchange of {{Status|Inactive}} crew members for useful goods like [[Resources]], {{item|Hydropot}}s, random [[NERON Projects]] or even a finished [[PILGRED Reactor]].
-{{Bug|The in-game description states that inactive characters can be traded from the [[Ship_Equipment#Bridge|Bridge]], and highly inactive ones from anywhere. However, this is currently false; they must be in a storage room just like any other tradable object.}}
+Before they turn {{Status|Highly Inactive}}, however, they can only be traded out of '''storage rooms''' (as opposed to the entire ship). If for some reason you do not want to wait for that, you might consider it worthwhile to move them there.
-To get characters in position for trading, characters with the {{Skill|Solid}} and {{Skill|Wrestler}} skills are necessary, as they may kick characters from room to room using their '''Kick them out !''' action. The cost is reduced to 1 {{AP}} for inactive targets. However, since one cannot choose in which adjacent room the inactive character will be kicked to, it may take a large number of attempts. See [[#Chances of Success]] below.
+For this, characters with the {{Skill|Solid}} and {{Skill|Wrestler}} skills are necessary, as they may kick crewmates from room to room using their '''Kick them out !''' action. The cost is reduced to 1 {{AP}} for inactive targets. However, since one cannot choose in which adjacent room the inactive character will be kicked to, it may take a large number of attempts. See [[#Chances of Success]] below.
-{{Note| Above mentioned note needs confirmation as some people have experienced that guarding doesn't work.}}
+{{Confirm|Level 3 characters with the ability to [[Actions#Guard|guard]] might help to direct their movement.}}

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	The table below gives, for each starting room and each available number of tries (which typically depends on the {{ap}} available), the probability of success.		The table below gives, for each starting room and each available number of tries (which typically depends on the {{ap}} available), the probability of success.

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−	=== Chances of Success ===	+	= Chances of Success =

	The table below gives, for each starting room and each available number of tries (which typically depends on the {{ap}} available), the probability of success.		The table below gives, for each starting room and each available number of tries (which typically depends on the {{ap}} available), the probability of success.

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 The last column tells, if you are ready to burn any amount of {{ap}} to move an inactive to storage, the average number of tries it would take. For example, moving a Raluca from the Engine Room to any storage room takes on average between 6 and 7 attempts. Note that due to the nature of the random process, In many cases you may need very few tries, but in some cases the number of tries will grow really high, so overall the average is not a "typical" number of tries.
+{|class="wikitable" width="1000"  style="text-align:center"
-{|class="wikitable" width="1000" align="center
 |-
-! width="150" | Starting Room
+!  rowspan="2" width="150" | Starting Room
-! 1 try
+! colspan="10" | Probability of success after ...
 ! 2 tries
 ! 3 tries
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 ! 9 tries
 ! 10 tries
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 | '''Front Alpha Turret''' || style="background: #DD9999" |0% || style="background: #DD9999" |6% || style="background: #DD9999" |11% || style="background: #DD9999" |17% || style="background: #DD9999" |23% || style="background: #DD9999" |28% || style="background: #DD9999" |33% || 38% || 42% || 46% || 14,6

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-How many '''Kick Out!''' actions does it take to shove an inactive into a storage room? The table below gives, for each starting room and each available number of tries (which typically depends on the {{ap}} available), the probability of success.
 '''Red''' cells indicate chances under 1/3, '''green''' indicates chances over 2/3.
-The last column tells, if you are ready to burn any amount of {{ap}} to move an inactive to storage, the average number of tries it would take. Note that due to the nature of the random process, In many cases you may need very few tries, but in some cases the number of tries will grow really high, so overall the average is not a "typical" number of tries.
+The last column tells, if you are ready to burn any amount of {{ap}} to move an inactive to storage, the average number of tries it would take. For example, moving a Raluca from the Engine Room to any storage room takes on average between 6 and 7 attempts. Note that due to the nature of the random process, In many cases you may need very few tries, but in some cases the number of tries will grow really high, so overall the average is not a "typical" number of tries.