Efficiency - Revision history

Franfran2424: Added "kick off" efficiency. I'll add more later

2019-05-24T12:02:47Z

Added "kick off" efficiency. I'll add more later

Franfran2424: Paragraphing and overall readability

2019-05-24T08:14:20Z

Paragraphing and overall readability

Franfran2424: Added hacker kit efficiency, changed typos of the note, added ? on weird numbers as said on discussion, removed space on extinguiser for formatting purposes

2019-05-17T12:28:44Z

Added hacker kit efficiency, changed typos of the note, added ? on weird numbers as said on discussion, removed space on extinguiser for formatting purposes

Franfran2424: I calcultated what the numbers should be like, but I have some issues: Multipliers stack, multiplying themselves (two tools=x2.25 base chance). Third type of objects, base repair chance is 3% (the lowest). Tested numbers don't fit calculated ones

2018-05-12T11:37:11Z

I calcultated what the numbers should be like, but I have some issues: Multipliers stack, multiplying themselves (two tools=x2.25 base chance). Third type of objects, base repair chance is 3% (the lowest). Tested numbers don't fit calculated ones

Franfran2424: Added a useful startegy to optimize {{ap}} when repairing. And calculated increase of efficiency (It works taking as main point that X.5 = X)

2017-03-09T15:04:11Z

Added a useful startegy to optimize {{ap}} when repairing. And calculated increase of efficiency (It works taking as main point that X.5 = X)

Edfel: /* Random Actions: Success Chance */

2015-05-10T18:41:41Z

‎Random Actions: Success Chance

Edfel at 18:41, 10 May 2015

2015-05-10T18:41:10Z

Edfel: This part of mush seems badly understood....

2015-02-15T09:44:21Z

This part of mush seems badly understood....

Edfel: /* Random Actions */

2014-07-24T07:24:28Z

‎Random Actions

Edfel: in progress. somehow.

2014-07-16T22:40:15Z

in progress. somehow.

New page

There are many actions in ''Mush'' to which an '''efficiency''' is attached, given as a percentage.
They can be classified into two categories:

* '''''Progress''''' actions, which are always successful, and are used for a greater task. The efficiency of all participants sums up, until 100% is reached and the task is complete.

* '''''Random''''' actions (repairing something, shooting someone, etc.), which may fail: the efficiency is the chance of success.

In both cases, the efficiency you get varies depending on many factors: the action itself, skills, items in inventory, broken equipment, etc.

== Progress Actions ==

{{Main|Relaying}}
For several of such actions ([[Research]], [[NERON Projects]], [[PILGRED]]) the efficiency of any character '''drops''' after each progress, and is only reset to its base level when ''another'' character does the same action: ''relaying'' is thus needed.

== Random Actions ==

In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half. {{confirm|is it always by half?}}.

On the other hand, '''any other action consuming {{ap}}''' will '''reset''' the efficiency to its base level. Including converting {{ap}} into {{mp}}. On the other hand, changing room when {{mp}} is available, lying down or eating do not consume {{ap}} and do not reset the efficiency.

The maximum efficiency is of 99%, meaning that a random action can ''always'' fail, even after 10 unlucky tries in a row.

{{todo|correct table? can it be filled up the same way for all random actions (+50% at each try)?}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! rowspan="2" |Action
! rowspan="2" | Base chance <br>(first try)
! colspan = "8" | Next tries
|-
! 2nd
! 3rd
! 4th
! 5th
! 6th
! 7th
! 8th
! 9th
|-
| rowspan="3" |[[Equipment Maintenance|Repair]]
| 6% || 9% || 13% || 19% || 28% || 42% || 63% || 94% || 99%
|-
| 12% || 18% || 27% || 40% || 60% || 90% || colspan="3" | 99%
|-
| 25% || 37% || 55% || 77% || colspan="5" | 99%
|-
| rowspan="1" |{{Equipment|Turret}}: '''shoot'''
| 30% || 45% || 67% || colspan="6" | 99%
|-
| rowspan="1" |{{Equipment|AstroTerminal}}: '''scan'''
| 80% || colspan="8" | 99%
|}

@@ Line 58: / Line 58: @@
 | 25% || 22% || 27% || 34% || 42% || 53% || 66% || 82% || 99% || {{confirm|experimental numbers, test them}}
 |-
-| 56% || 70% || 87%? || colspan="6" | 99% || (first two tested on fuel tank) {{confirm|87% is a experimental numbers, test it}}
+| 56% || 70% || 87%? || colspan="6" | 99% || (first two tested on fuel tank) {{confirm|3rd try is a experimental numbers, test it}}
 |-
 | rowspan="1" |{{Equipment|Turret}}: '''shoot'''
 | 30% || 45% || 67% ||  colspan="6" | 99% || (tested)
 |-
-| rowspan="1" |{{Equipment|AstroTerminal}}: '''scan'''
+| rowspan="1" |{{Equipment|AstroTerminal}}: '''Scan'''
 | 80% ||  colspan="8" | 99%  || (tested)
 |-
-| rowspan="1" |{{Item|Extinguisher}}:'''extinguish'''
+| rowspan="1" |{{Item|Extinguisher}}:'''Extinguish'''
 | 50% || 62% || 77% || 96% || colspan="5" | 99%  || (tested)
 |-
-| rowspan="1" |{{Item|Hacker Kit}}: '''hack'''
+| rowspan="1" |{{Item|Hacker Kit}}: '''Hack'''
-| 25% || 31%? || 39%? || 49%? || 61% || colspan="4" | 99%  || {{confirm|numbers with ? are experimental numbers, test them}}
+| 25% || 31%? || 39%? || 49%? || 61% || colspan="4" | 99%  || {{confirm|2nd,3rd,4th are experimental numbers, test them}}
 |}

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 == Random Actions: Success Chance ==
-In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half or a quarter.
+In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half or a quarter. The maximum efficiency is of 99%, meaning that a random action can ''always'' fail, even after 10 unlucky tries in a row.
-{{note|Just watching the table, bare hands actions unsuccesful repairs increase previous effciciency by x1.5, while unsuccesful repairs with N tools increase increase previous efficiency with N tools by x1.25.
+{{Warning|However, '''any other action consuming {{ap}}''' will '''reset''' the efficiency to its base level. Including  converting {{ap}} into {{mp}}.}}
-If we consider that equipping two tools increases the base efficiency (bare hands=base) by x2.25 (basex1.5x1.5) and as repairing with no tools increases the  efficiency faster, it would be a good idea to start repairing low efficiency items without tools (quick growth of base efficiency), and then pick tools to get the x2.25 boost when base efficiency is 20-25% or higher. }}
+*On the other hand, changing room when {{mp}} is available, lying down or eating do not consume {{ap}} and do not reset the efficiency.
-However, '''any other action consuming {{ap}}''' will '''reset''' the efficiency to its base level. Including  converting {{ap}} into {{mp}}. On the other hand, changing room when {{mp}} is available, lying down or eating do not consume {{ap}} and do not reset the efficiency.
+It seems that unsuccesful repairs without tools increase previous efficiency by x1.5, while unsuccesful repairs with N tools increase increase previous efficiency with N tools by x1.25. As equipping two tools increases the base efficiency (no tools=base) by x2.25 and repairing with no tools increases the  efficiency faster, it would be a good idea to start repairing items with very low initial efficiency without tools  for quick growth of base efficiency, and then pick tools to get the x2.25 boost when base efficiency is 20-25% or higher.
-−
-The maximum efficiency is of 99%, meaning that a random action can ''always'' fail, even after 10 unlucky tries in a row.
 {{todo|anyone knows how to fill this table without testing each action?}}
@@ Line 49: / Line 47: @@
 |-
 | rowspan="3" |[[Equipment Maintenance|Repair]] with 1 tool
-| 9% || 11% || 14% || 17% || 21% || 27%? || 34%? || 42%? || || (tested on research lab) {{confirm|With multipliers and rounding, numbers should be: 9-...-21-26-32-40-60}}
+| 9% || 11% || 14% || 17% || 21% || 27%? || 34%? || 42%? || || (tested on research lab) {{confirm|With multipliers & rounding, it should be: 9-...-21-26-32-40-60}}
 |-
 | 18% || 22% || 27% || 34% || 42% || 53% || 66% || 82% || 99% || {{confirm|experimental numbers, test them}}
@@ Line 60: / Line 58: @@
 | 25% || 22% || 27% || 34% || 42% || 53% || 66% || 82% || 99% || {{confirm|experimental numbers, test them}}
 |-
-| 56% || 70% || 87%? || colspan="6" | 99% || (first two tested on fuel tank) {{confirm|IMPORTANT, seems multipliers aren't based on base chance.}}
+| 56% || 70% || 87%? || colspan="6" | 99% || (first two tested on fuel tank) {{confirm|87% is a experimental numbers, test it}}
 |-
 | rowspan="1" |{{Equipment|Turret}}: '''shoot'''

@@ Line 17: / Line 17: @@
 In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half or a quarter.
-{{note|Just watching the table, we see that bare hands actions repair fails have a have x1.5 multiplier efficiency variation, while repairing with tools fails makes this a x1.25.
+{{note|Just watching the table, bare hands actions unsuccesful repairs increase previous effciciency by x1.5, while unsuccesful repairs with N tools increase increase previous efficiency with N tools by x1.25.
-If we consider that having two tools "apparently" boosts the base chance on x2.25 (basicx1.5x1.5) and as repairing with no tools increase more quickly the  efficiency, it would be a good idea to start repairing hard items without tools (quick growth of base efficiency), and then pick tools to get the x2,25 boost just when the chance to repair with tools is more than a 20-25% repair without them. }}
+If we consider that equipping two tools increases the base efficiency (bare hands=base) by x2.25 (basex1.5x1.5) and as repairing with no tools increases the  efficiency faster, it would be a good idea to start repairing low efficiency items without tools (quick growth of base efficiency), and then pick tools to get the x2.25 boost when base efficiency is 20-25% or higher. }}
 However, '''any other action consuming {{ap}}''' will '''reset''' the efficiency to its base level. Including  converting {{ap}} into {{mp}}. On the other hand, changing room when {{mp}} is available, lying down or eating do not consume {{ap}} and do not reset the efficiency.
@@ Line 49: / Line 49: @@
 |-
 | rowspan="3" |[[Equipment Maintenance|Repair]] with 1 tool
-| 9% || 11% || 14% || 17% || 21% || 27% || 34% || 42% || || (tested on research lab) {{confirm|With multipliers, numbers should be: 9-...-21-26-32-40-60}}
+| 9% || 11% || 14% || 17% || 21% || 27%? || 34%? || 42%? || || (tested on research lab) {{confirm|With multipliers and rounding, numbers should be: 9-...-21-26-32-40-60}}
 |-
 | 18% || 22% || 27% || 34% || 42% || 53% || 66% || 82% || 99% || {{confirm|experimental numbers, test them}}
@@ Line 68: / Line 68: @@
 | 80% ||  colspan="8" | 99%  || (tested)
 |-
-| rowspan="1" |{{Item|Extinguisher}}: '''extinguish'''
+| rowspan="1" |{{Item|Extinguisher}}:'''extinguish'''
 | 50% || 62% || 77% || 96% || colspan="5" | 99%  || (tested)
 |}

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 In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half or a quarter.
-Just watching the table, is obvious that all the actions have this two efficiency variations (x1,5/x1,25), and as repairing with no tools increase more the efficiency, it would be a great idea to try to repair without them, so you use less {{ap}} to achieve a 34-44% or more, that becomes on 51-66% picking up one tool.
 However, '''any other action consuming {{ap}}''' will '''reset''' the efficiency to its base level. Including  converting {{ap}} into {{mp}}. On the other hand, changing room when {{mp}} is available, lying down or eating do not consume {{ap}} and do not reset the efficiency.
@@ Line 22: / Line 24: @@
 The maximum efficiency is of 99%, meaning that a random action can ''always'' fail, even after 10 unlucky tries in a row.
-{{todo|anyone knows how to fill this table without testing each action?-I've just wrote and calculated how before.}}
+{{todo|anyone knows how to fill this table without testing each action?}}
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 ! rowspan="2" |Action
@@ Line 37: / Line 39: @@
 ! 9th
 |-
-| rowspan="3" |[[Equipment Maintenance|Repair]]
+| rowspan="4" |[[Equipment Maintenance|Repair]]
 | 6% || 9% || 13% || 19% || 28% || 42% || 63% || 94% || 99%
 |-
 | 12% || 18% || 27% || 40% || 60% || 90% ||  colspan="3" | 99%
 |-
-| 25% || 37% || 55% || 77% ||  colspan="5" | 99%
+| 25% || 37% || 55% || 77% ||  colspan="5" | 99% || {{confirm|77% should be 82% by multipliers}}
 |-
-| rowspan="1" |[[Equipment Maintenance|Repair]] with 1 tool
+| 25% || 22% || 27% || 34% || 42% || 53% || 66% || 82% || 99% || {{confirm|experimental numbers, test them}}
-| 9% || 11% || 14% || 17% || 21% || 27% || 34% || 42% || || (tested on research lab)
 |-
-| rowspan="1" |[[Equipment Maintenance|Repair]] with 2 tools
+| 56% || 70% || 87%? || colspan="6" | 99% || (first two tested on fuel tank) {{confirm|IMPORTANT, seems multipliers aren't based on base chance.}}
-| 56% || 70% ||    || || ||  ||  ||  || || (tested on fuel tank)
 |-
 | rowspan="1" |{{Equipment|Turret}}: '''shoot'''
@@ Line 57: / Line 69: @@
 |-
 | rowspan="1" |{{Item|Extinguisher}}: '''extinguish'''
-| 50% || 62% || 77% || 96% || colspan="5" | ?%  || (tested)
+| 50% || 62% || 77% || 96% || colspan="5" | 99%  || (tested)
 |}

@@ Line 15: / Line 15: @@
 == Random Actions: Success Chance ==
-In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half or less.
+In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half or a quarter.
-On the other hand, '''any other action consuming {{ap}}''' will '''reset''' the efficiency to its base level. Including  converting {{ap}} into {{mp}}. On the other hand, changing room when {{mp}} is available, lying down or eating do not consume {{ap}} and do not reset the efficiency.
+However, '''any other action consuming {{ap}}''' will '''reset''' the efficiency to its base level. Including  converting {{ap}} into {{mp}}. On the other hand, changing room when {{mp}} is available, lying down or eating do not consume {{ap}} and do not reset the efficiency.
 The maximum efficiency is of 99%, meaning that a random action can ''always'' fail, even after 10 unlucky tries in a row.
-{{todo|anyone knows how to fill this table without testing each action?}}
+{{todo|anyone knows how to fill this table without testing each action?-I've just wrote and calculated how before.}}
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 ! rowspan="2" |Action
@@ Line 56: / Line 57: @@
 |-
 | rowspan="1" |{{Item|Extinguisher}}: '''extinguish'''
-| 50% || 62% || colspan="7" | ?%  || (tested)
+| 50% || 62% || 77% || 96% || colspan="5" | ?%  || (tested)
 |}

@@ Line 13: / Line 13: @@
 For several of such actions ([[Research]], [[NERON Projects]], [[PILGRED]]) the efficiency of any character '''drops''' after each progress, and is only reset to its base level when ''another'' character does the same action: ''relaying'' is thus needed.
-== Random Actions ==
+== Random Actions: Success Chance ==
-In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half. {{confirm|is it always by half?}}.
+In most cases, a failed random action will only generate a {{notification|private log}} but will, however, '''increase the efficiency''' by half (or less). {{confirm|is it always by half?}}.
 On the other hand, '''any other action consuming {{ap}}''' will '''reset''' the efficiency to its base level. Including  converting {{ap}} into {{mp}}. On the other hand, changing room when {{mp}} is available, lying down or eating do not consume {{ap}} and do not reset the efficiency.
@@ Line 48: / Line 48: @@
 | rowspan="1" |{{Equipment|AstroTerminal}}: '''scan'''
 | 80% ||  colspan="8" | 99%
 |}